LOL @ Nancy! Yeppers, that's the rub alright! :laugh: If the default lights had their shadow min, bias set ot point 1 or less, that would spare a lot of grief for a lot of people.  Then again a lot of poser users are just lazy and just piddling around, instead of taking the simplest thing of how to do a half-way acceptable render. If they're going to do renders, they should at least use James.  He's not as 'dorky' looking as Dork!:lol:

I cannot save the world. Only my little piece of it. If we all act together, we can save the world.--Nelson Mandela
An  inconsistent hobgoblin is the fool of little minds
Taking "Just do it" to a whole new level!