Why is it elitism, why bashing? P 4 is for sure out of date and even the stores don't expect support for this. Some years ago EF gave away P 5 for free as P 4 is far away from the state of the art. If you are driving a T-Model do you expect support for it in each and every garage?

If you are against improvement, OK, it's up to you but then, please, don't write such statements in a thread that is for people who are interested in the improvement of figures for 3D applications, e. g. Poser.

As far as I can see the only one who is bashing here is you, sorry.

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Ulli

"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!"