but bagginsbill.

i think the poser community are doing bad renders because poser is nto able to do better. so now SM is not changing it because they are doing bad renders? 

you have a point. and since you talked directly to SM you know everything better then us. you have ''insider'' information he he he :) 

but you can not tell me that SM is happy that people are buying a software  where they dont need shadows.i thought a company wants positive word of mouth in the public.

i think i will now start cursing( not to you) because this is against human logic. how can a human in 2009 buy a software to render out a human without shadows and human characteristics( specular,SSS,...).
its not about people not understanding how humans looks. but if you want in your free time  to render some ''art'' then for christ sake you want to do the best.

so based on all that i think people who are using poser accepted that they dont have money to buy a better software so they use poser. but IMO that doesnt mean that they dont want normal working DM shadows. for christ sake in 2009 poser doesnt have good DM shadows. i am not even talking about GI. who cares. even Pixar is not using GI in their movies.