Thank you for the heads up on the Amapi 4.15 Kaom.... I have downloaded it and am working with it....modeling is new to me so it poses to be an interesting adventure further into the world of 3D art.....They give you the full program and the registration number.... ;o) And thank you Miden1138 for the heads up on the 3D Studio Max 4. I have it now and intend on checking it out as well.... The magazine is excellent too. 8-) The info provided by both of you is much appreciated. Swade

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