You didn't mention the "incredible" price... World Builder 3 Standard is twice the price of Bryce 4, while the Professional version is FIVE times the price. Although, I will admit the World Builer renders can look pretty darned great if in the right hands. But, if I were to spend the money... For $400 I would upgrade to Bryce 5 and Poser Pro Pack. For $1000...I would probably opt for Cinema 4D Art maybe, something like that. Bryce 4 is like the .22 caliber of the 3D world...cheap(est) and loads `o fun. I have seen some great renders from some of the World Builder people, hope you can master it. I would really like to see a compared render output from both World Builder and Bryce, just to see. Agent Smith

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