Forum: Vue


Subject: Offline-Software ?

kyraia opened this issue on Jun 22, 2009 · 43 posts


silverblade33 posted Tue, 23 June 2009 at 8:46 AM

I'm against the whole damn lot of it.
If I buy it LET ME USE IT IN PEACE!! Grrr!

sorry, I despise corporations with a passion as I consider them the "Big Evil" of this century, banking crisis should have shown us this, and the lunacy of EULAs, copy protection etc are all part of it.
All their carry on doesn't stop pirates one whit.

A much better system is to encourage honesty and reward it.
The BBC has realized it's constant threats and warnings about dodging the licence fee here in the UK, was counter productive, it put folks' back sup, which cost it more in the long run.
So instead they now put on encouraging adverts showing you easier ways to pay etc.

Therefor, what artists who make Vue and other content are better doing, is putting notes like this in their products (very effective in Vue and Bryce's content library's which have notes)
"This was made by Joe, I hope you enjoy using this, please remember, this puts bread on my table, don't steal from me please!"
It won't stop a lot of the idiot or commercial pirates but it might disuade some, it may make some buy your stuff in shame, that's about all you can ask for in this life.

Better that than the way copyright has become a serious damn threat to civil liberties, because:

a) Corporations are immortal, think about the threat Disney for example poses, holding copyrights forever. That is actually a threat to nations' security in the end, oh not for "Snow White" lol, but blackmail of holding vital tech patents etc. Corporations want copyrights and patents extended...and extended...
b) Civil court requires far less evidence to convict you than criminal court.
c) Corporations have enough money to warp law maker's better judgement
d) Look at how corporations have tried to copyright human GENES for pity's sake, what does that tell you about the ammorality of many such entities? Pharma corps are notorious for their foul deeds.

I've bought an awful lot of software, as art and Dungeons & Dragons are about all I've got left in life, so hey, why not! :thumbupboth:
I'm comparatively  not well off at all (I'm better off in past 2 years than I have EVER been, actually, lol, and I had to get even sicker to get that),
no holidays, no car, no job, no SO, no kids and I dine on simple fair. That's life. So almost literally every spare penny I have goes into art or books .
I do nto call myself "poor" except by refference to some, as I know what real poverty is like.

The RIAA and others whine about thieves..yet one example shows the reality:
a top selling singer and her band  earned a record company $4 million, she got paid in the end, $40,000.
pray tell me, who are the real thieves?

E-On is making a dreadful mistake in pushing towards studios for Vue. Why?
There's maybe what, 10,000 arts studios in the world?
There are iirc 200 MILLION broadband users at least now, all potential buyers of Vue and other apps.
It's a company's fault if it fails to get users.

See DAZ3D and why their way is better and more successful. He who has the most users, is king, NOT he who has the fewest users whom he screws the most ;)

We really need to grow the hell up as a species, this is the 21st century, 19th century short-sighted Capitalist ideas should have died a death because they've been a bloody disaster. (Adam Smith warned about the dangers inherent in this, actually, folk forget this, Capitalism, like any system, requires wisdom to work correctly....all systems made by Man have shown themselves to fall victim to Human fraility. I have no answer for this or any system that coudl work, all I can say is that folk need to stop bloody thinking with thier  reptile brain, and use wisdom a lot more than short sighted self interest. Long term, sustainable, survivable profit is where it's at.)

We're not allowed ot talk about such stuff because of the corporate thought-police, lol seriously, where do you see such stuff debated in an adult, calm manner? Isn't that proof there's a seriosu danger ot civil liberties? 
Rarely in the media because they are either too chicken or part of the problem.
See drugs, crime and terrorism as areas where the blinkered bull crap has made things worse, NOT better.

This doens't mean I support terrorism, robbery, drug abuse or other such crap, no, as a matter of fact. I've got a lot of very unpleasant experience with such things (not as a do-er, but the do-ee or such). But I'm not going to freak out over these horrible things, either.
It means I realize we need to stop acting like headless chickens, following whoever promises ot *"PUNISH THE SINNER! WAR WITHOUT END! I AM STRONG, HEED ME! FEAR ME!"
*ya know? Sigh. They keep leading us in ever decreasing circles.
Terrorism and drug abuse are absolutely atrocious things, but deaths by road accidents, smoking and alcohol vastly out weigh them, but you don't see anyhting like the bruhaha over them!! Hypocrits!!!

9/11 = 3000 deaths.
Drugs = 14,000
Homicides: 20,000
Road accidents = 40,000
Alcohol = 81,000
Smoking = 400,000
Any honest, sane person should accept from that, that the Department of Homeland Security should be goign ape on booze, cigarettes and cars!!!

We're starting to see folk at the top quietly admitting the War on Drugs and War on Terror have indeed been disasters , have indeed made bad situtations much much worse than they should have been.
So why in the bloody hell are we now wanting a "War on Piracy" and "Piracy Czars" when that idiocy has already been proven to make matters worse, hm?

To show the madness, the UK Prime Minster noted that 17 MILLION Uk citizens had illegally downloaded stuff, yet still stridently called for more work against them.
Oh wow, bloody brilliant that is, sunshine, make criminals of one THIRD of our population, so where we buidling the gulags and concentration camps then for that many?  lol
barking bloody mad!

Real pirates KILL people, fyi. Big bloody difference between that and unauthorized copying, which is what we're talking about. Blurring that boundary is obscene.

REAL theft is about taking a real object, real lobjects cannot be copied indefintely, it's a hell of a different thing for some scumbag to break into yer home and rob you, or someone take a pciture of your artwork and distribute it.
Commercial piracy needs stamped on, yes, that's usually involved with organized crime, which is a serious threat.
But P2P is not Satan Incarnate!!
It's potentially the greatest advertizing tool in history, hint: viral videos, why do they work so well? ;)
Also, it iwll have to become the depository for our knowledge and art, because of the sheer volume of it all it's impossible for any one group to keep it and it's immoral as hell for them to do so.
We just need to figure out better ways of ensuring artists get money from their work, and are always acredited as the creators.
I'd suggest a system like the UK uses for venues playing music, a licence fee that's paid then to the artists from a non-profit organization.

Sorry, I just don't have time for Human bull crap anymore. Nor does our world.

Apologies for the rant, and I'll understand if the mods delete this, no hard feelings, but trust they too see what I'm warning about :)
I'm an artist, I support art, I've had a very "Interesting" life, so I'm not talking completely out of my backside :p

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