Well, I don't mind admitting that I have a bloated runtime, collected over quite a few years now. I'm not sure that I like the suggestion that I sit around playing with dolls though - I just need to do the odd illustration, something I've not done much of lately but am finding need of again. I can't draw, at least, not without a set square and a compass, so Poser represents a good solution for me - thanks to the toon and dry media shaders from RDNA, and being able to create fair (I'm not looking for photorealism) renders to take into Painter or Artrage for overpainting in oils.

As for the UI, I find it a comfortable working environment that fits my needs. I'm not creating a masterpiece, I'm arranging content for postworking or natural media rendering, I don't need a techie interface with a billion features that I'll never use. That doesn't make me a dinosaur - it just means that Poser works for my needs. Of course, I'm not saying that I don't want more, I would love improved dynamic cloth and faster rendering is never a bad thing, I'm just saying that Poser is a niche product, I dont' think it was ever intended to become the high end app that some people seem to want of it.

I do have Carrara, which I am learning again because I will need to do some animation later in the year. I would suggest that folk who are not satisfied with Poser look at that. It isn't perfect but the pro edition has much more of what some people are asking, including faster rendering and up to 10 nodes in a network, albeit at a higher price, of course (unless you're upgrading - then it's about the same, it is a bargain really). And here's where I do agree with BB, for the price, what can folk realistically expect? If people want high end features, then they should expect to pay a high end price. I wonder if the Poser content market, with its vey low prices for often very high quality, has so spoilt people with its low prices that it has created expectations which have extended to the software.

It is interesting to see how Poser is used by professionals - and it is, although not 3D pros. When you see it, it is never used for photorealism but for simple illustrative animations and pictures or as elements of work extensively developed in Photoshop.