Yeah, Poser does give us tools. And with each release, they generally added or improved on these. This is hopefully the course of action we all hope for. Otherwise, what would be the point ? There are more program choices today. And we, the customer, would like to be heard and not blamed for the manufactures shortcoming. Yes, I like to use premade figures & textures [ some people have those 3d skills, not me ]. When I paint, I buy the oils. There's no way I would go out and make the paints. If we all had to build our figures from scatch...forget it. Point & click works for some people. We all have different skill sets. I'm not going to belittle anyone for their efforts. Each of us are going to have different wants, needs, & expectations. I think that's what this is mostly about. So, when does the actual information come out ?   Mike