am I butting in on your conversation? thats me ..sowing confusion all over heh sorry?

pjz - its a very very small asymetry in the mesh, and so far only a few other modelers I've spoke to has seen it. The DAZ guys say its impossible with how v4 was made. But you load hger into c4d and lo and behold .. a slight shift L vs r. So they went and looked in various programs and it shows for a few. Very odd.  So I'm not losing my marbles (no really!). Its slight enough that generally its only an issue with super skin tight clothing which you dont want anyways cause the joints will be a *****

odf - heres an obnoxious excercise for you. export an object from poser and reimport the new one. Now repeat a few times, like say, ten. Then check it agaisnt the original.  You will find that the continued rounding off on import and export has melted the detail a little. Weird eh? EF told me over and over it wasn't so even when I showed them the results. SIlly humans.

Any rate I think the rigging thing might be partially caused by the cr2 load order. I'll ask Nerd next time I talk to him .. he might know.

Lyrra