> Quote - BB can you please render this out? apollo with your ENV_sphere for an outside render. so like  your render with the girl. > but can you use a bright grey material?  the reason for this is because i want to see how the colors look that bounce on him. > > thanks

Here ya go. One infinite light at 75%.
Skin is Diffuse_Color = WHITE, Diffuse_Value = .7, no specular at all.

Left is without GI, just the direct illumination. Right is with GI, which picks up the light emitted by the environment sphere, as well as bounced light from one skin part to another, such as where the arms are near the body, or under the chin which picks up light from the chest.
Render time was affected by his brow, which although 100% transparent, still counts as a transparency that has to be studied.

Render time on the left was 35 seconds, on the right 23 minutes.

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