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Subject: OT: My movie project and How to not get discouraged With Big project?


tebop ( ) posted Fri, 10 July 2009 at 9:45 PM · edited Sun, 04 August 2024 at 5:40 PM

Hi guys.

In about 5 days i start making my movie. I"ve finally done all the research  that i needed. 

I made this File with illustrations and text explaining all the things i need to do and ways i've figured out how to do or things that you guys have helped me how to do. 

Here are some of the topics.. I have 114 topics in my file

-How to do Camera switching
-How to do Underwater scenes
-Crowd Groups and Crowd Group walk animations and how to save the characters to the libraries as pairs.
-How to do Destruction in Poser
-Making crowds in Vue and how to layer them in front or in back of Main characters using FinalCut
-How to do Earthquake motion in camera by using the script called PeriodicMotion
-How to do Explosions, rain, smoke, fog using Stock footage and layering in Finalcut.
etc etc

It took me a while to find solutions to all the questions i had.
The script is also ready, i already revised it a few times.

So, pretty much after I'm almost ready to begin animating. But it's a pretty big project and i'm not a great animator, it's kind of discouraging.. I want to make it look good. 

Definitely i'm much more knowdleable about how to animate in Poser NOW compared to when i did my first movie. 

I always feel like i want to finish everything in one day but that's stupid. How long do you guys spend a day on working on your projects? Do you spend the whole day, or 1 hour a day?

I'll do a comparison between the kind of things i did in my first movie as opposed to what i'll do now. 

1. 2003 movie
-Background pictures mapped on flattened and elongated cubes. 
-Movie made all in POser and IMovie( mac) for editing and composing, used Mimic 2 but Mimic on Poser 5 characters looked so crappy cause mimic is designed more to work better on DAZ figures.
-Sound..: Total mess!!! Some sounds were louder than others and whenever we watched the movie, i would have to be ready with remote on hand, ready to turn down the volume at certain points
-Done in Poser 5, and in Preview mode but Poser 5 preview mode was worse than Poser 6's preview mode
-Used BVH but i never modified BVH,, and the BVH i used were jittery and i did not know how to connect them or fix them
-Cheap sound effects
-Music was MIDI converted to Garageband mp3, it was ok..
-Tons of unrealistic BAD animations done by hand
-I didn't have a good collectin of clothing
-characters faces all done with photos in the faceroom. Looked pretty bad cause i didn't have good photos
-I was rushing it so, in some parts , i didn't even create animation. It was just a static picture with voice acting. That was a stupid thing.
-Never had Houses, Buildings, or any good car models
 
2. Movie I will do in 2009 soon

-The background will be pictures of an actual Poser environnment with a real Sky photo.
Will make many takes from various different angles. 

--Movie made all in POser and FinalCut Express  for editing and composing, and Apple's Soundtrack for further audio editing. Will also use Mimic 3.0. Mimic used on DAZ and Poser 6 characters. and some animal cute characters.

-I have about 30 different characters that will appear in my movie. they all look different and they have different clothes. I have main characters, realistic beautiful female characters, strong dudes, teachers, bad guys, Giant Robots, weird creatures,etc. 

My last movie there was only about 8 characters total and they all looked the same.

-Story takes place in House, Forest, Beach, Downtown city area, freeway area when driving. Tons of varied environments.

-Have tons of BVH i will use for special moves. Also, i made realistic walk loops from BVH parts. Super awesome Sexy walk for Female characters and awesome runs for action animations. 
Have also ofigured out how to modify and combine BVH's. 

-Awesome collecton of sound effects i have collected. Plus Sound Effects like rain, and wind will be provided  by Garageband sound effects, that i can connect and mix

-Music will be Cinematic full stereo quality quality music i got from various places and the radio too.

-I have researched about animation and have asked questions here so i'm ready to tackle any type of animation. i also h ave a book about Animation principles. I'm sure i can make it way better than in my last movie

-Much better voice acting cause I'm doing alot of it myself and i know how it's supposed to sound...unlike my sisters and parents who were shy and it sounded like they were reading : ). Plus i'm getting some help from some online friends who'll participate.

-Large Collection of clothing i have now thanks to downloading and buying from renderosity AND also converting with Wardrobe wizard 1 and 2.

-Characters faces WILL be 3D characters' original faces with textures . I will not use photos in the face room

-I will take my time, won't rush it

-I've made a ton of Environments using Great House/Bulding models that i've bought or downloaded for free. 

-I've studied more about Lighting and have made interesting Ligh sets that look good.

-I will make background stuff and Crowds, using Vue's ecosystem

-Realism by using effects by compositing in Final cut: 
Explosions, Fire, Smoke, Tears falling from character's eyes, rain, fog


Well that's a summary of my project. It's gonna be intense. Wish me luck!!!


Doran ( ) posted Fri, 10 July 2009 at 11:51 PM

Good luck to you. I am sure you will do a great job :)


tebop ( ) posted Sat, 11 July 2009 at 12:07 AM

 Thanks, i discovered i have a book called Chacter Animation from 1996. I'm reading that too


lmckenzie ( ) posted Sat, 11 July 2009 at 1:14 AM

Break a leg! 

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TheOwl ( ) posted Sat, 11 July 2009 at 4:36 AM

*How to not get discouraged With Big project?

-Spend time and money on it. And every time you feel overwhelmed, stop, take a deep breath and look at the BiiiiG picture of things which is 99% of the people in the world grew old and retired in a nursing home not realizing their personal dream and could only watch, applause, cheer and in some cases get angry on others who did theirs.

-Always ask help.

Tebop, get the pieces together and upload a trailer or something and if I can see hardwork. I would give a hand.

Passion is anger and love combined. So if it looks angry, give it some love!


svdl ( ) posted Sat, 11 July 2009 at 5:45 AM

Subdivide into smaller projects. I'd say each scene warrants its own subproject.
It may be that each camera cut means the start of a new project.

You indicate that you have several "locations" where the movie takes place. Start out with one location, build that environment, and render it from different angles until you're satisified with the setting.
It's not just the setting itself; there's also the lighting. For example, if some scenes take place in a forest during the day, and others during the night, you should have a "forest PZ3" with daytime lighting and a copy of the "forest PZ3" with nighttime lighting.

You already have a script, but do you have a storyboard? Storyboards are a great help. Actually, Poser can be a great storyboarding tool!

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Miss Nancy ( ) posted Sat, 11 July 2009 at 2:39 PM

step 1 is to post the storyboard so we can see it.  I reckon we're not gonna be able to see the 2003 movie.



Doran ( ) posted Sun, 12 July 2009 at 1:53 AM

SVDL... well spoken. dividing the entire project up into smaller units also gives you a sense of relief and accomplishment even when the entire project has not been completed. You know? easier to handle the stress of a few short term goals then that of one massive undertaking. It keeps me working, at least.

I don't use story boards, I have never needed them BUT A lot of great animators use them and I wouldn't dare to argue their experience. What works for some might not work for others and since so many talented people (almost all of them) use this process I would advise you do the same. And if you are trying to get artists to help you be they voice or animation talent, a story board is also a great way to sell them on your project.

It sounds to me that you have got everything in hand and are ready for this. I hope to see this movie one day.


tebop ( ) posted Sun, 12 July 2009 at 11:38 AM

So subdividing. That's right, kind of how you would program a game. 

I'm going to try that.

And yeah, i'm going to do a Story board for the main stuff .I wasn't it planning it but i see how it could help. 


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