Hey litst, I'm sitting here trying to figure ou how you made the tire itself. I know it's not a torus preset. Frim what I can tell it's a spline, translation, symmetrical, witha circle, but when I do that I get a solid cylinder object. Your tire is hollow, how did you arrive at that? I'm going nuts trying to figure it out. Please tell me the secret of this tire of yours, this tire of yours is a lesson in itself for all of us. How did you make it? My inquiring mind wants to know! Thanks, kaom