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Subject: Image not Going right, any ideas?


rj001 ( ) posted Thu, 16 July 2009 at 10:05 AM · edited Fri, 29 November 2024 at 2:03 AM

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I've had this idea for some time, and everytime i try it i cant get out the image thats in my head. The inspiration, if you havent already guessed is jack in the green (Jethro Tull - what do you mean youve never heard of them? get out of here - should think bobbystar could put you right) anyway i digress. ive modelled the character, and bryced a forest scene, but cannot get it lit right. not sure if im after night or day or mist or shadows. this image is the latest in a list of experiments. Any suggestions.

help.....

Experience is no substitute for blind faith.

http://avalon2000.livejournal.com/ - My Art Blog



LaurieA ( ) posted Thu, 16 July 2009 at 12:00 PM · edited Thu, 16 July 2009 at 12:01 PM

I haven't used Bryce in awhile, but is there a way to make the fog/mist fall off a little, maybe enough that your whole scene isn't washed out? I know it can be done in Vue, but like I said, Bryce is a little to distant for me to remember ;o). Seems there is some sort of falloff since I can see the bush in the near left a little clearer than the rest of the image.

And yes, I know and love Jethro Tull...LOL. Bobby won't have to chastize me...hehe.

Laurie



bobbystahr ( ) posted Thu, 16 July 2009 at 12:15 PM

 Y'know...I think it needs some "God Rays" from over the right shoulder aiming at the 'feet' of the virtual photographer so to speak. Other than that I really like this image.
Wassup with the Tull reference...izzit my great and psychedelic age, or my resemblence to Ian? got asked a bunch of times for my autograph last time he was here...we both had hair tied back and similar facial hair.... I dunno if you've seen him live but he's a sturdily built individual ...nothing like this skinny hippie over here...LOL...I am a fan from day one btw.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


rj001 ( ) posted Thu, 16 July 2009 at 1:05 PM

haha bobby its as you said, age-ing hippy = ian anderson :)
the tull had me as a kid from Living in the past, though i didnt know who they were then.
later someone lent me 'broadsword and he beast' and 'songs from the wood' and that was it!
still wnt to find the 'hook' for this image tho

Experience is no substitute for blind faith.

http://avalon2000.livejournal.com/ - My Art Blog



vncnt9663 ( ) posted Thu, 16 July 2009 at 1:18 PM

Rj,

Funny Bobby says to add godrays. I was thinking the same thing.
I would also normalize the atmosphere. The green mist just not doing it for me. Other then that I like your general composition.

Good luck


TheBryster ( ) posted Thu, 16 July 2009 at 3:09 PM
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Thick As A Brick was THE most brilliant story-telling album ever.
And I'm with Bobby and the God-rays.

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wildman2 ( ) posted Thu, 16 July 2009 at 5:27 PM

Back off on the haze thickness add some low lying fog or cloud plane and use model as the focus for a low strength depth of field and must add some godrays....

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rickking ( ) posted Thu, 16 July 2009 at 5:27 PM

i agree with the rest. the rays are being asked for in the composition. i would also run it though photoshop.
outside of aqualung, i really never paid them much attention. oh well.


bobbystahr ( ) posted Thu, 16 July 2009 at 6:17 PM

 @ rickking...you really should...Ian Anderson is IMO a genius of acoustic music as well as the concept album.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


rj001 ( ) posted Fri, 17 July 2009 at 1:56 AM

and ian does fill a codpiece well

im thinkinig i want to darken it and just have light on the subject
what do you mean by God Rays?

Experience is no substitute for blind faith.

http://avalon2000.livejournal.com/ - My Art Blog



LaurieA ( ) posted Fri, 17 July 2009 at 2:18 AM

Quote - and ian does fill a codpiece well

im thinkinig i want to darken it and just have light on the subject
what do you mean by God Rays?

Volumetric sunrays that shine down thru the clouds ;)

Laurie



bobbystahr ( ) posted Fri, 17 July 2009 at 2:52 AM · edited Fri, 17 July 2009 at 2:53 AM

Attached Link: sorta like this

but from over the character's right shoulder so from the left of your image.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


rj001 ( ) posted Fri, 17 July 2009 at 3:15 AM

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thought thats what you meant, i was rendering this as your reply came in.

Experience is no substitute for blind faith.

http://avalon2000.livejournal.com/ - My Art Blog



rj001 ( ) posted Fri, 17 July 2009 at 5:51 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1916971

Done it! thanks guys and gals.

Experience is no substitute for blind faith.

http://avalon2000.livejournal.com/ - My Art Blog



TheBryster ( ) posted Fri, 17 July 2009 at 6:18 AM
Forum Moderator

Huge improvement!

Available on Amazon for the Kindle E-Reader

All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


bobbystahr ( ) posted Fri, 17 July 2009 at 9:01 AM

 Awesome...see my comment at the image.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Fri, 17 July 2009 at 12:15 PM · edited Fri, 17 July 2009 at 12:16 PM

That's the first time I've had the same thought as everyone else - and before I read further than the first image posted.

How come this image so seemed to scream Sun Rays?

Final gallery image shows that everyone was right as it looks excellent.

But I also like the change of camera angle.

Oh and Jethro Tull is great!

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


50parsecs ( ) posted Fri, 17 July 2009 at 2:58 PM

Your final image looks great RJ! God rays? Oh yes, crepuscular rays. ;-)


bobbystahr ( ) posted Fri, 17 July 2009 at 6:25 PM

 we speak low english here 50parsecs....nun uv dat hi falutin dictionary stuff here...LOL.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


50parsecs ( ) posted Sat, 18 July 2009 at 4:04 AM

Yeah, yer right Bobby. i was jus' tryin' to class up da joint using one a dem high-brow woids I learnt, from de art professers, eh? ;-)


TheBryster ( ) posted Sat, 18 July 2009 at 6:26 AM
Forum Moderator

Now look here, Chaps! This is dashed uncivilised, don't you know. One should speak the Queen's English at all times.

Available on Amazon for the Kindle E-Reader

All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


bobbystahr ( ) posted Sat, 18 July 2009 at 9:54 AM

 LOL...the queen I know speeks jus'lika dis...LOL.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


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