I'm sticking with 4.0 but only because 4 works fine for my limited uses, 5 doesn't offer much new. But the price seems reasonable to me. Microsoft IS the world champ at underachievement, the Windows 9x's ar not a whole helluva lot different since Windows 95 OSR 2.1. but people lined up for 98. again for 98 SE, and quivered over ME. And XP is the supposed "must have" for '01 I think Corel will serve their market well. Real Radiosity is all it'll take for me...