I wrote and Wiz replied, about removing need for particular types of line:- > > (1) ... keys { static 0 k 0 0 } > ... store animated figures ... add animation ... - When it is needed to describe animation, put it in. When it does nothing except repeat the InitValue value, leave it out? > > (2) ... lines which explicitly set quantities to values which are their defaults anyway, e.g. "min -10000" and "max 10000". > better to properly set ranges, than eliminate them. - I was not talking specifically about limits. CR2 files contain hundreds of lines that serve only to set many parameters to values which are their defaults anyway, e.g. "hidden 0" and very many others. All that adds to file bulk, multiplied across all the actors in a figure, multiplied by all the Poser figures in the computer, becomes a LOT of space used. >> [actor Hip's "twistY genital_twisty" info repeats actor genital's "twistY twisty", and likewise with several twists and translates etc at each of over 50 joints in the body] > because every joint really does articulate on the LAST joint in the hierarchy. You're just misinterpreting the relationships. - Erh? I still see no need for all that repeating of twist and translate etc info in both of a pair of parts that articulate with each other. And, (c. 30 lines per repetition) * (6 or more) (for twistX/Y/Z translateX/Y/Z and perhaps others) * c.50 (articulations), = up to c.10000 extra lines of CR2 language text that could be removed per Cr2 file!