Well ladies what can I say, again the offering of help has been great and I very much appreciate it all, and the websites that where posted all great help. Have done some work on the pen tool so far and hoo boy, talk about exacting, steady hand there is required, so have made  many flubs and expelled curse words and  all but the climb is slow, but each step is a step gained, slow but gained. And yes " Fran on the Edge" I write smutt, why cuz I can....lol and just for the fun of it but i also write other stuff to when required.

                      Anyway much thanks for the advice and sites to explore so figures by the time the world ends according to the Mayan calendar in Dec 2012, I'll have made some progress..........winks.........again much thanks.........................Wryter