I think it's because Corel functions in a different kind of logic than the rest of us. If they made cars, next years model would get 5mpg less in gas mileage and be 12% slower in the 0-60 tests. I hate Corel products, always have and probobly always will. It's too bad Metafuc%ations had to poop their pants and ruin everything that was beautiful. If you bought Carrara you'll really know what I'm talking about. Bryce 5 could have been a very great thing, and instead it's a very minor update, I guess I held my breath for nothing after all. Sure the network rendering is nice, but it's not enough to make up for a retardedly slow render engine in the first place. I don't blame anyone for getting Bryce 5, if I had enough extra money laying around I'd get it too. Then I could be disappointed along with the rest of you. kaom