Lost Johnny, You couldn't be more right,computer hardware prices are dirt cheap now, and they are faster than ever. That's a bonus for all of us. I'm buying a new computer soon, that's why I can't spend my money on software right now. I can't wait to build a new system, It'l blow my old one out of the water for half the price. My current system--- AMD Athlon 600MHZ cpu w/200MHZ frontside bus 448 MB SDRam ATI All in Wonder Pro 32 MB 2 Western Digital 27 GB Harddrives Pinnacle DV200 firewire card Yamaha Lightspeed 16x CDRW Soundblaster Live Now I can build a systwm twice as fast for half of what I paid for this. We are living in good time to buy computers. And yes I'll probobly end up buying Bryce 5 oneday, we all give in eventually. kaom