Sorry I have not been ignoring the coments been busy with my boy. Vue 6 is quite stable about 80% of the time for me. But there are wierd things that happen sometimes, odd things crop up in renders that should not be there. Yes I do love the program and there was more that just the products at Cornucopia3D. I am a hobbiest not a proffesional and I believe thats where VUE are aiming at now.