ok..I fully understand..heh I just searched for posertech.com and it was open so I got it...then I searched for posertech and low and behold I found a newsgroup that was called this. Well of course I checked it out immediately to see what it was. I do say that its very kewl. Real poser info and not so much of "I want to know that too" and "hi". The reason why I want to actually do a site like brycetech for poser (ie posertech) is that a few months ago I set out to start making posable characters for poser. The obvious sources of info are the pf here and 3dcommune..so I go check them out. A day later, I know almost no more about it. So I decide I'd have to do a site by site check..which I do and I started learning some info...but it was like crumbs spread over a wide area. A bit here, a bit there. Then I start making characters...and the interesting things are poser techniques I thought I had developed. I was using extra objects to break the poser hierarchy to stop the bad blends for instance. So, while Im doing this...I keep checking the various sites. 3 months later..I find a site that actually talks about doing this...3 MONTHS!!! well, that just made me scream. I thought I had been doing this alone... Now the fact it wasnt my technique is not the problem..it the fact that had I found this early in the character creation process, it would have saved me literally hundreds of hours of fighting the blend zone problems. (short of asking online) blend zones are like a "black hole". Almost no info about them..and this is one of the biggest most important areas for the creation of a character. So what all this is leading up to is that Im like 4 months later..got some great characters, but I was all over the internet getting the info..and then the other day I get to the newsgroup and start reading some about cr2 editing tricks. Again...info that could have saved me lotsa work...found 4 months after the process started. It should have all been in one place. I should not have had to go to 50 zillion sites to get a basic understanding of character creation (within poser or outside using modellers), explanations of some of the "gotta have" programs for this like 'uv mapper'..and the great things it does that is like a hidden secret to the world...and then things like material creation within poser itself. sigh...it just frustrated me. and if it did me, then others that want to do it would have to go thru this too. lol side note..Amapi (the modeller Im now using) also has this same problem related to info...and one of the biggest things I found about it (4 months later) is that the book clearly states the program cant do something...I found the other day by accident..that it can. again..sigh thanx anyhow.. see you around BT