yeah ron...at least some kind of categorizing that would make it easier. I dont want to be misunderstood. I found some really great sites..and some great info. I saw poser doing things imagewise, that I just didnt really believe it could do. now if I could have seen this stuff as related to what I wanted..in say, < 1 week. I would now have 40 characters..not 20. but I do like a challenge..so I guess I really picked one this time huh? lol will be fun meeting all the folks whose sites I was on. Several images are still burnt into the back of my mind and I wont forget them...ever! lol BT