Well, I'm sure the quad core and 12 gigs of ram helps lol. The scene is V4 dressed with hair with a couple weapon props and some tombstone props so it's not huge. But no background or anything I was doing that post. (and no effects, etc.) I could before always render pictures this size (its 8x10 actually) fairly quickly but it was once I started using the occlusion that I guess something isn't handling. I just am trying to figure out which it is that isn't handling it. I sometimes have wondered if my video card has been bad since i bought it (because I think that is why sometimes after my computer has been running for awhile it either shuts down completely all of a sudden or shuts down and keeps trying to restart but won't get past the page asking if you want to use the last stable mode unless I turn the pc off for hours. Unless it's getting too hot that was my other thought I need to clean it/ get a fan. But I wouldn't think the motherboard would effect the speed. You can't add more ram (I mean above 4gbs) though unless you switch to Vista 64 bit am I understanding that correctly? I just for so long have been not using Poser like I would like to simply because each render takes so long and I need to fix that one part at a time since I'm broke lol.

Actually once I get time to work on a new piece (not for a couple days probably) the next thing I was going to be working with was part of [your] potions room thing. I have two models I wanted to import into a scene made with wizard place but I'm thinking though at this point that that will be way too much to render. Maybe I can figure out how to render the shadows separately though to do it in layers, hopefully:) I just saw your name and realized I was just working with the stuff yesterday lol.

Thanks.