Well said PJF. I am avid user of Corel software for a long time. I always use CorelDraw! Graphic suite because i preferred the interface compare to Photoshop. But i don't go down on Photoshop telling it's not good because i know how good the software is and i have read by an artist that did books for CorelPress that but software have there up and down. Bryce 5 is the first version under the flag Corel and PJF said it, a lot of the staff of Metacreation is under Corel employment now. So stop bitch slap Corel about Bryce 5, First of all, there is a good chance they will do a patch to address the problems not encountered in the Beta testing (since it's always like this in software), and they will receive feedback from the users and correct the problems. I always had good service from Corel since the day of CorelDraw 5. Pleiades