You should see the Maya crowd, totally pissed off because they're spending thousands on Maya 2010, which hardly adds anything new, but a few compositing tools Autodesk needed to find a home for because nobody's been buying.

...Speaking about Autodesk: I don't know nothing about Maya, but I pay €650,- (abour $1000,-)  a year for my autocad subscription, just to get its yearly upgrade, and I have to because every three upgrades Autodesk calls the older ones obsolete and you can't upgrade anymore or you have to buy a brand new version. And are those upgrades without bugs? No, also autodesk comes with hotfixes and service releases, and that for a software application that cost in europe over a €3500,-
So I'm not surprised nor complaining (Only to SM) about some bugs or crashes in Poser 8. Not I don't have any but I think it's all part of the game.

I don't agree that poser 8 should be poser 7.5, They rewrote the entire renderengine, and the library, and that are two mayor parts of the software. Everyone, including yours truly, was complaing about those parts in poser 5,6,and 7, and now they have done something about it. Of course it isn't perfect in the first time, but believe me there is no such thing as a faultless product, after 30 years of engineering I seen enough to prove that.

I'm happy with the new render-improvements, although I will have to learn a lot new tricks to get the best out of it and I like the new library, okay the icons could be bigger, but that will change in the SR1.

best regards,

Bopper.

-How can you improve things when you don't make mistakes?