Quote -  gtrdon - over time, one of the things peole have suggested should be improved was the library.

Who CARES what it runs on as long as it runs (and.. for most people, it DOES!)

Of course it's annoying when something on your computer stops it from running. I'd be mightly annoyed if I couldn't see the library on my computer. But I would start looking for reasons, because obviously it wasn't SUPPOSED to not show up. So there had to be something that stopped it. And that "something" had to be something specific for my computer. In this case, the main culprit seems to be certain aggressive (anti)virus programs. Since I personally use Avast, I didn't have any problems.

The point is: Don't shoot the messenger. Here's a little story from the Real World™: Today, on my job (I'm a train conductor by trade)  we had some 200 people from a cancelled train - it broke down - and they were now all expecting not only to get on the next train (mine...) but ALSO to get a seat AND compensation and preferably a gilded pillow to sit on, too.

Thing is.. I could do ONE of those: Get them on my train and transport them to their destination. One hour late. Which, naturally was annoying for the people who were delayed, but.. it wasnt' really MY fault - yet I had to listen to all the bitching and bickering and agree with them all. And I did. And smiled. And was as helpful as I could possibly be. Because I did understand why they were upset. I would be, too. BUT... it still wasn't my fault. Just as it isn't BB's fault that some people have a too-aggressive antivirus program installed.

I've twice bought a new computer that was already infected with Norton. It takes some work to get rid of it, but it's possible.

You can look at it that way, but all of these firewall and anti-virus problems would not have been an issue if the new library was written differently and in some other language.

I do understand SM wants the library and other parts to connect to the internet, so the can in the future create online libraries and render farms, after all they're looking at ways to make more income. I know many are exited by such thing, but was it worth that people do abandon poser due to the library issues?

If Poser goes the way BB describes, then we will only see more and more compatibility issues in the future.

The problem isn't aggressive firewall and anti-virus. Mine has worked for over 4 years without ever having a problem, every applications runs fine, newest and older ones. Now P8 comes and suddenly there are firewall and anti-virus issues. The first time ever. P8 is doing something to tick of security and that worries me...... normally people would say danger, watch out, something wrong with the application, get rid of it. You have a security breach.......

But with Poser that question isn't asked, no something is wrong with your firewall and virus. It can't be Poser, it must be something else and now scores of people let Poser access who knows what and allow their system security to be compromised.

Anyway, if Poser goes the online in future the way that is described, they will not see me upgrade anymore.

For now, one should be able to totally block internet access for Poser 8, but you can't. Do so and FireFly and the Library will stop functioning. That's not right, that should be the case, SM  takes unwanted control of my system. If Microsoft does it, we all cry havoc. If SM does it, so what?

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