Well, I agree that in general I should avoid being nasty.

And up to a point, that worked. The point at which it stopped was right about when adegner said

"so bagginsbill take that back to the coders please.  Try p8 on your main machine and goodluck"

I was fine with that, no problem. But aeilkema responded with

" do believe he is the coder....... the people who normally code Poser, didn't make the library. SM, for some reason, decided to go the easy and cheaper way."

That bit about the easy and cheaper way was total bullshit.

I later posted a screenshot, showing that Poser 8 works with no Internet access. Then adegner came back and said

"No baggins is correct, If i disable internet connectivity wity my firewall software the library disappears.
If I disable the wifi port by disconnect from the network the library does work.  My apologies to the coder when you disable the internet with zone alarm even though the port 127.0.0.1 is in the trusted zone it is disabled."

For that, adegner has my respect and thanks. Very nice of him to post confirmation that he had completely disabled his TCP/IP stack and that is not the same as having no Internet connectivity.

I could give a whole lecture about how different layers exist in your computer's communication stack, but that would be tedious both for me and the reader. For those interested, read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model

There are 7 layers in the model, and a firewall can be inserted to operate between any of those layers. A firewall is a simple device - it makes a decision whether to let a message pass between two of the layers or not. If it decides not to let the message pass, it doesn't pass.

Some firewalls are more sophisticated than others. Depending on which layer they operate on, you can get the right or the wrong effect.

A firewall configured to prevent communication with the Internet, but still allow internal computer communication should be operating between the transport and network layers (layers 3 and 4). It is that interface that is required to communicate outside the machine. Internal communication doesn't need to go to layer 3.

But if you have a firewall programmed or configured to interfere with communication above layer 4, then all communication is affected. Layer 4 is where TCP lives, and if you interfere with TCP, then you cannot use the comm stack for internal communication.

Things like McAfee's SiteAdvisor operate at Layer 7 (where HTTP lives) and are able to interfere with all forms of web services application layers, such as implemented in Google Desktop and Poser 8.

I tried to find info on how to configure SiteAdvisor to understand that 127.0.0.1 (your own machine) is OK to talk to but I can't find it. McAfee is such a huge problem for so many people that the number of hits on any phrase I tried is enormous, and I'm not finding the relevant information. Otherwise, I'd offer a solution for that case.
 

 

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