Althought I'm not thrilled about Bryce 5, I have to admit that the Tree Lab is pretty good. I messed around on one of my clients copies of version 5 and the trees were impressive. I'd give the tree lab an 8.3 out of 10. Compared to the trees in Vue D'Espirit they are great. I don't think you will be disappointed with the tree's though. [There is that better? I'm not knocking Bryce! And I'm being serious, I do like the Tree Lab].LOL kaom