This comment about xml files intrigues me, because SM are trying to discover why my Poser 8 library takes up to ten minutes to index, though sometimes it crashes. I mention xml files because after installing Poser 8 my ccleaner utility is suddenly bogged down with destroying xml files that it never found before. Is there a connection? I've stopped using ccleaner for now, but the library still takes ages to index. I've tried shutting off all non MS services and that speeds up the library a bit, but as soon as I add the hotfix update the library slows down again, and what's more the hotfix is interfearing with my Vista by making it very difficult to access anything from the start button. There's something seriously wrong with Poser 8. I'm affraid I find it very difficult to believe anyone tested it prior to release.