ookami, I have known Willow online for about a year as part of the PFO Admin Team. In that time she has been the most difficult, demanding and manipulative person that I have ever had to deal with. She will say or do what ever it takes to get what she wants and doesn't care who she steps on in the process. She tells everyone in her version of events that this all started on september 16, 1999 with a letter she recieved from Edgenet. I can tell you that she already had www.poserforum.org and www.poserforum.net registered as a domains on september 7th 1999. This is all a matter of Public record, you can check it. She has been planning to move the forum since June of 1999, so she could take full advantage of the advertising money that a Poser Related Forum can generate. Would she need to do this if she was truely a Non-Profit Organization? Ask her. You can read that letter from edgenet she mentions for yourself and decide: http://www.poserforum.com/index.ez?viewDay=1999-09-27 -Jeff H.