Well, I officially confirmed with all FOUR distributers of Bryce in Taiwan that Bryce 5 is being recalled from the market because of "bugs" in the program. And I'm talking about the English version here. So if you've got Bryce 5, be aware that according to the distributors in Taiwan you have a defective copy! (This is, obviously, a load of BS). So, I've given up on buying it here and bought it online from a U.S. company that ships internationally. BTW, try VUE4. I am yet to be convinced that B5 is going to come close, but we will see what we will see. Doc