P8 is being tested all right and support is actually great. But.... I seriously doubt the testers represent the community in anyway or even push P8 the way it should be pushed. Imagine how much money SM could save if they would get more (or better) testers. Half of the issues reported here are issues that should not have been overlooked when testing. Now support has to deal with them and that costs money.

I've been testing a good number of applications over the years. To mind comes Vue, TrueSpace and a number of game engines. Once problem I've noticed that many testers do not know how to test. They just play a little with the application and state it works. I really think testers should get a short course in how to test.

Even SM has seen the problem in testing. They're opening up the Poser Pro testing program to many more users, which is a good thing.

Quote - You know, I have Vue Infinite.  Great rendering program,  Decent animation.

I can't count the number of times it has crashed on me.  And yet, the number of people screaming about how simply awful it is seems minimal compared to the massive amount of pure, unbridled angst I keep seeing with Poser.

I returned Vue because of that, I was so fed up with it, that I stopped using it completely. E-on has a major problem.... they do not know how to fix the problems reported with Vue. When I still participated in their testing program, I was stunned to see how many of the reported issues were still there after the new version was released.

Quote - ll the whailing seemed strange to me, I got curious and installed P8 onto all three of my computers, all different setups, and P8 works fine on all of them. ( I know I cant keep it on all three just testing.) Had a couple of crashes on the gateway but no more than photoshop does on a regular basis.

That's the main reason people do not complan, their attitude is completely wrong, sorry to say so. Because photoshop crashes, Poser is allowed to do so? I've got more then enough applications (drawing related, 3d related and so on), that never crash at all. All kinds of application I won run very smoothly. I'm not going to settle for this mentality that bugs are normal. Imagine buying a tv that stops working every so often. What would I do? Return the thing and get a diiferent one that works fine. Yet with applications like Poser and Vue people put of with the sloppy programming work of the programmers. Because, according to them, it;s normal. NO..... it isn't! An application should work well and not crash every so often. But as long as people settle for sloppy applications, then nothing will change.

With Poser there is hope that it will be fine in the end. Allthough it's not guaranteed anymore. Poser 7 Pro still has bugs that aren't fixed. Vue never ever is bug free and bugs from the previous version get fixed in the next one. Poser seems to go that same route. Bugs from previous version get dealt with in P8. If that's the case then I will not upgrade anymore as I've stopped doing with Vue. I've returned Vue 6, it was a still very crash prone, even after numerous service releases. If that's the case with P8, then it's time to look elsewhere. I may do that anyway, if Poser goes the direction that is being portrayed here by some then I'm not really interested anymore. Combining the for me majority of useless features of P8 and it being unstable, is enough reason to start looking elsewhere or settle for the best release and stick to that for a long time.

Kind of like WinXP...... keep using it until MS releases something worthwhile, which may never happen.

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