Atthisstage and others, We realize that you are not trying to be antagonistic but are just pointing out a few bits of information. This post is not a rebuttal but is intended hopefully to address a few of the things you mentioned. There are two important issues. The first is copyright (as discussed in the previous posts). The second issue is the DAZ Licensing agreement which specifically prohibits the re-distribution of the product (with or without modification). Hopefully the legal system would protect product developers and their license agreements if the copyright laws don't. In the bigger picture, we are all part of the Poser Community, and the standards we establish together are the standards that everyone will end up living by. If we (the Poser Community) create a standard that allows anyone to modify any product and re-distribute it as original work, then we remove incentives for artists to create original works. See the posts about Morph World and Traveller. We feel the artists that create the products should have the rights to establish their terms of usage (license agreements). Whether or not that artist chooses to prosecute license agreement violators, we feel the community should respect those rights and do our best to support the artist's wishes. We respectfully submit that for the best good of the entire community, the question should be "What's right and fair?" rather than "What can I get away with?" We hope that this standard will be one that is widely accepted Eowyn, thanks so much for your willingness to support this. It's people like you that make being apart of this community so fun. Ronstuff, a question for you is that if something is 90% original then why don't you just make the extra 10% effort to make it 100% original? Thanks, AnneMarie DAZ