I really hate this thread...and, its implications to our community. I have a couple of questions, though, for Annemarie... Just out of curiousity, did you happen to run across the Odyssey texture in freestuff, and, notice that the hands looked similar enough for further scrutiny? Or, were you tipped off by someone? (I hate the thought of the implications of that latter, more, than the former. But, please do share. Also, what about the "seam guides" templates. Are these okay to use? Thank you, Poppi