Interesting. I think M4 is not nearly as atractive as M3 until you start morphing the crap out of him! But then one of the on-going criticisms of M3 was that he looked like a male model (or a lumberjack, depending on if you were looking at the face or the bod)

I do agree, M4 does not lend himself the "Marlboro Man" characters, but that's why we have multiple models in our runtimes.

And yes... some more "rugged" textures for M4 would solve a LOT of the issues. Beck from Daz and Bobby by HeRaZa make almost any character face look more manly.

I rather like M4 and the faces I'm seeing for him... but then I'm using him the way the designers planned! :)