Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Is it just me...

LaurieA opened this issue on Sep 10, 2009 · 47 posts


mackis3D posted Thu, 10 September 2009 at 8:15 PM

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Even some of the male users who prefers men are apparently into the more "stereotypical gay" look

No, not really, it's rather a masculine, virile look as represented by athletes or fitness models. And in fashion the strange thing is the straight guys copy the gay guys: just visit a gay bar and you realize what is considered today "gay looking" is three to five years into the future "straight looking".

Example from the Nineties: Gay men wore camouflage pants and military looking boots in the mid and late Nineties. At the beginning of the 2000's straight men and women wore that too - while gay men already established another look, especially gym pants and jackets (as from Adidas) that were retro (from the Seventies). This was fast adapted by straight men.

Today gays favor masculine guys like Jason Statham (who was already mentioned in this thread for being "manly") not "gay looking" ones like Zac Efron, because he's just looking too soft.

But I wrote about gay adult men. Not teenagers or gay young men in their early 20s.

I've interviewed recently a group of gay teenagers: they looked like clones of the Tokyo Hotel boys, the pop group whose lead singer looks like a mix between German female 80's singer Nena and a Manga comic hero. They like Anime and this is obviously the common thing they have with young straight women - they like Anime with gay content and in them you'll find a lot of feminine looking young gay men. Which is not surprising since a young gay man is looking for someone who doesn't appear to be aggressive.

I also think that DAZ seems to target that market with such characters as Hiro 4 or Guy4. Add to that all the Elves stuff  (and on Renderosity the Vampires) - not my personal taste either. And I don't even know what market a Freak with that pink ballerina dress they look for. That's for the girls and young gays. The other men only need a naked Victoria with the basic clothes (bra and bikini) they get with DAZ Studio for free. And I don't need them either, because Poser's James and Simon are doing it for me, the clothes that came with Poser are more real looking and I give them my own texture designs.

I don't like the clothes that are usually sold for men either, the textures mostly look as if they're coming from decades ago. The "fetish" clothes I've seen for Michael 3 and now Michael 4 look similar to the fancy clothes stereotypical gays wore in leather bars or Studio 54 in the Seventies - absolute nothing I'm looking for to dress Michael 4 with. And the eyelashes for Michael 4 look as if they were designed for a woman.

Aside from that: find shoes that you can actually wear and not those boots, that are sold in thousand variations and regular looking hair, not those crazy longhaired wig parodies, that no man would wear (except in a transvestite show). But I guess a lot of people wish some more reality to the stuff Victoria 4 has too.

Or  are we who want to add reality with meshes, textures, clothes, hair etc in the minority? There must be a reason why they sell 'Puck' at DAZ.