Sharen, I have asked this same question on the Vue Forum, but no replies yet. But I am interested in hearing from those who have used Bryce 5 (or 4) and Vue 4. I own Bryce 4 (started with Bryce 3) and understand what it's about, but have just heard of Vue. I would really like to hear about how Bryce's animation ability compares with Vue's overall. Animation is very important to me - I'm not so interested in still images. Also, comparisons in render time would be helpful - Bryce takes a LONG time... Thanks for any info.