merci beaucoup pour l'image, athan.  as shown in above imgs (ice and athan), lite-emitting effect from alt_diff channel at value 1.0 is not noticeable unless lite-emitting surface is contiguous to another posersurface, in which case the lite-emitting effect might be confused with GIbounces or "colour-bleeding".  whilst this feature has been known in poser since 3rd Q 2006 (approx), I dunno whether shader creators have taken this into account yet.  perhaps they will advise users to turn off IDL, or maybe they will just ignore the feature.  however, IMVHO it's not gonna be a big problem. even tho everybody now knows how to multiply the effect, nobody will actually do it in a gallery or promo render AFAIK.