I just wonder how in the world I made the first pic then. And of course it was one of the few pz3 I didn't save :( Because SOMETHING is putting coloured spots on Bong, and if it isn't from the window, then where? O'm 99.9% sure I did NOT put anything on the light - but it's the only thing I can see then... But how? I used a pre-canned lightset, and it's usually just white (The P8 Backlight or whatever - not at the Poser pc now so I can't check...

I've never tried the gather node and as it is clear, the ambient is at 0 - also I didn't use IDL.... scratches head

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You just can't put the words "Poserites" and "happy" in the same sentence - didn't you know that? LaurieA
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