Fact is, the most 3d suites can do the same think as Bryce. Ones with Inbuild tools others needs plugins. Bryce is for Peoples great they new in 3d. Its simple (exept the material editor :rolleyes: ) and easy to learn. But ambionists hobbiest goes after a while too Vue or one of the bigplayer like maxon and so on. In Moment I think that DAZ must comes with a very big Update, or its better thats goes to OpenSource.