Hello Poser users,

I've got a serious question, so don't kill me for the provoking subject :scared:

Some background: I use Vue for rendering stills, and so far I've used the free version of DAZ Studio to place characters into my scenes.
According to some tutorials I've seen importing Poser objects and animations into Vue seems to be much more integrated compared to DAZ Studio.
But I need some more reasons to spend my money on Poser.
I render everything in Vue, so the quality of the render engine is NOT important.

What else is important to know?

Thanks you for your time,

Tom

It is a Personal choice that You need to make..!

 Depends on what you need it for.

If it's only for posing figures prior to importing them in Vue, you can probably make do with DS. 

Just remember that DS isn't as free as it looks. If you want full functionality, it costs. It's just sold in modules, unlike Poser.

 You might try posting this same question in the Vue forum here. Vue-Poser on a Mac is a major problem as I am sure you will find out in the Vue forum. Vue-Poser-Win is supposed to be very good. 

With Vue , and its ability to pose figures inside vue you may not need Poser at all. What I dont know is if Vue uses poser to allow the posing to occur.

Poser cloth room can be very useful, but you can live without it.

I agree you will get a better answer from the Vue forum .

If all you want it for is to place objects into your scene, you're likely fine with D/S stripped down, free version. If thats all I was using it for I wouldn't buy Poser. But if you want an app that you can do much more with for a reasonably low price, then I would go with Poser.

And I agree you will probably get a much more detailed report in the Vue forum.  I have Vue, but have never had the time to learn it.

Crowning: I use Vue 7.4 for rendering, I always set up my scenes inside poser 7 for the most part. I have Poser 8 which I got free because I did some work for one of the companies associated with it, but I still use Poser 7 for my imports yo Vue.

The point is you don't actually need Poser 8 to import into Vue, Poser 7 or even 6 will do just as well, probably even better!!
They will be much cheaper, but not free of course!

Thanks guys'n'girls,

your thoughts are much appreciated

@ Gary: I'm on a Windows system, so thankfully any Mac issues are not relevant for me

@ thefixer: good point about Poser 7 or older. Of course the additional Poser 8 content is tempting...
One question to you: right now, I pose my character in DAZ, import to Vue, place the character there, make small pose adjustments in DAZ, import again and so on until everything is right. This is of course not the best possible workflow.
Is this the same with poser or is it possible to make the fine-(posing-) adjustments directly in Vue? My hope is that with the native Poser format (which Vue is able to import) I'll be able to change the pose directly. Right now when I export from DAZ in .obj or .dae format the connections between the single parts get lost, so I can only move single parts of a character, not pose.

@all: Yeah, I guess it's a good idea to ask the same question over in the Vue forum

Have all a nice weekend,
Tom

If you select the option to pose inside Vue, IIRC, it tells you that it will invoke Poser, to do so. I've never tried it but I've seen several comments that it is extremely memory/processor intensive - understandable since you're running both apps.

I can't speak to animation but for stills, I'd say it's down to how happy you are with the process of setting up scenes in DS and are you willing to learn a new interface for doing that.. A lot of Poser users seem to have trouble adapting to DS and I imagine the reverse may be true as well. Your best bet is to download the Poser demo and try it out. Some people are having odd problems with Poser 8 so you might want to wait until the SR1 is incorporated into the demo download.

For what it sounds like you want to do, the suggestion of an older version is probably good, If you can find a cheap deal on 7 or 6 somewhere. I use 4 with Vue 6 and it works perfectly. Vue does offer the option to render using the Poser shader tree. Someone in the Vue forum may be able to tell you how well that works. Personally, I feel it's usually better to use the native mats/shaders in the rendering application, whatever you're going to/from.

*One question to you: right now, I pose my character in DAZ, import to Vue, place the character there, make small pose adjustments in DAZ, import again and so on until everything is right. This is of course not the best possible workflow.

*On the contrary, this is the best possible way for Vue and Poser used together for a number of reasons!
As another poster said, reposing inside Vue is possible but it's a right PITA. I have Poser 7 and Vue open together, if the pose isn't right, I re-pose inside Poser, Vue immediately notices that something has changed and asks if you want to re-import it, which you do obviously. Nice and easy, with no hassles at all. Vue will even re-import to the position you may have moved it to in the scene, so you don't even have to re-position it either!!

As for the new Poser 8 content, while it is good to have it might not benefit you, I still haven't used any of them except for Creech which is a really awesome swamp type monster.

Personally I prolly won't use Poser 8 with Vue 7.4 at all, I'l wait for Vue 8 which is round the corner and no doubt optimised to use Poser 8 properly.

Quote - Vue immediately notices that something has changed and asks if you want to re-import it, which you do obviously. Nice and easy, with no hassles at all. Vue will even re-import to the position you may have moved it to in the scene, so you don't even have to re-position it either!!

Yeah, that's what I've never noticed because I exported the changed pose with a new file name. Couldn't be any easier!

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Personally I prolly won't use Poser 8 with Vue 7.4 at all, I'l wait for Vue 8 which is round the corner and no doubt optimised to use Poser 8 properly.

Good point. If e-on offers a reasonable priced update from Infinity 7.5 to 8 I should probably wait with Poser 8 until Vue 8 arrives.

Thanks a lot.

Tom