I think it must be the prop/script/mat thing... I found magnets really confusing untill I learned to screen out the awful magnet/zone/base analogy... the magnets in Poser are so usefull and powerful but the interface paradigm can put non-technical people way off. I just need to reconceptualize vss somehow I'm sure so it can seep into my dinosaur bain. I may be the last person in American now without a cell phone... there is even a program to give them with montrhly usage allowance to people on public assistance but I just can't figure out how to operate one and have never owned one...funny since my only current income derives from royalties on old work on the graphical aspects of cellphone GUI when they first came out :) Went into a store and tried to buy a cell phone with no menue interface but could not get one... I want an on/off switch and the dialing keypad... nothing else. I'm a real primitive.