There really is no Daz vs. Poser debate. Daz is getting better and now compares all the way across the board with Poser 8 (with the all the plugins of couse) Poser is the all in one package ,DS is the modular approach. I like them both. A 3d hobby has proven to be quite expensive and very addictive, so just go ahead and buy DS3 advanced and Poser 8 because eventually you will anyway if you stick with it. :) Im current ly working on getting a copy of 3dsMax so I can render Daz characters with Vray..see what I mean!!!