Roy: You don't have to list your accomplishments for me, I am well aware of them and in awe of what you have done for the community. I am also very grateful for your programs. My comments were not directed at you or any single individual - if you felt they were, then I'm truly sorry. They were directed at the business entity EdgeNet Media. If you can tell me that Edgenet cares about Poser as you do, then I will amend my belief in that area. Jeff: I'm sorry, but a single e-mail does not tell me anything. I have no context for it. I'd need to see a lot more of the communication between the two parties leading up to it. I think that anyone who has ever worked in a large business organization knows that it is almost always the phonecalls that lead up to the "e-mail" that tell the real story. As for Willow's comments, from the context I -originally- saw them in, I believe (there's that word again -- am I 100% certain, no chance) that she may have had/has a point but like a lot of things in life, taken out of context and on its own, it sounds ludicrous. Again, it's one of those things that you can go round and round on. Who was right and who was wrong? Don't think anyone was all of either...I think that, to some extent, we were all wrong and responsible for the way things went. But you know what the poet once said, from chaos all great things grow. -=>Donald (EG)