I got the patch and have loved working with it. The poser characters I were importing did have some props and such with no uv coordinates. Now they work perfectly. :) The QTVR save is cool, too. I am new to VUE so the other fixes are for problems I haven't had crop up. I'll admit, I like the patch being manual like it is. Maybe it is just the geek in me, but I like the control of putting the files in their place and knowing exactly what files are installed. DonnyD