Quote - I have never saved a scene in P8.  I prefer to do a render first.  At the moment I am sticking to basic scenes  i.e. 2 or 3 figures and a background with 2 perhaps 3 lights.  P8 is not crashing every time I load from a library..  Perhaps 1 in 3..

Wow I would never dare to hit "render" without saving my scene first. 99% of when Poser crash (IMO) it is when rendering. And regardless of whether it was a test scene or not, it's cumbersome to recreate everything just because it wasn't saved.

Save often - it will save you both hair and tears ;)

And yes, I've had Poser 8 crash on me. I haven't counted the times it has done so, all Poser versions from 4 and onwards has crashed on me from time to time. Which is why I've learned the hard way to SAVE my work. Once I'd spent the whole day on an animation, with dynamics and all (Poser 5 or 6, can't remember now) and went on to render the thing out, it crashed AND took the file with it. And I never managed to make the dynamics look as nice as they did in the initial version. Since then, I've learned to save. And if it's an important scene, I save several versions of it just in case a save file should somehow become corrupted.

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