This thread is unbelievably entertaining. I am glad I decided to read it through. The irony is remarkable, and I surely have learned a lot.

"So by your own admission you have no need for toast,"

Admission? What an odd word to use. Is that a crime or transgression to you? No, I don't need much toast, but I like it to be there if I should decide I want to use it. Anatomically, real and whole people have nipples and genitals. I personally feel that it is part of a complete package, and I don’t think it is morally objectionable to put it in. I understand if other people do and would not for the world encourage them to violate their consciouses for me. I don’t need them to. I can adapt something I already have to do the job (even though I lack the talent to paint my own textures). I just don't get bent out of shape if the genital texture isn't there, because I am creative enough to use other resources. So are you.

How did I say I that I NEED neutered textures? All of the male body textures are neutered. The genital textures are separate for a separate figure. I thought I made clear in my post that, because there are plenty of options, artists are not very limited by what TC2 doesn’t do. Can you convert arm, leg, body, eye, fingernail, teeth, tongue, etc. textures from one DAZ figure to another without TC2? I can’t. I don’t have many programs that do every single thing I want them to do, which is why I keep buying more programs.

Interestingly, the 3DU people made their program expandable, so that if anyone wanted to add conversion abilities to their software for genitals it could be done. I guess they thought that was a fair compromise between the community’s expressed needs, and their feelings.

They also did not provide for the conversion of textures for female genitals, other than what is painted on the body texture (which is really unavoidable). There are 3rd party conforming figures for female genitals not just for males, which are not supported by TC2. I suppose I am dense, but I had really not pegged this as a gay issue. I supposed that if people had asked for conversion of textures for female genital figures, their answer would have been the same. I figured the 3DU folks found all sexual content objectionable.

I suppose it has to do with the lens through which one sees the world (theirs, yours, mine). I could have been wrong in my assumptions, I admit it, but seeing we are ALL working from assumptions, I might also not be the only one who is wrong.

I have to wonder, if some one did write that "toast" plugin, and the figure support it needs to do conversions between various models, would the boycott still be on?

"As for it being morally arrogant for me to judge them in reverse, who said I was doing that by not paying for their services?"

Indeed, who said that? Not me. Don’t put words in my mouth, I did not put any in yours. There are plenty of posts in this thread that have been judgmental, quite apart from buying or not buying anything. Can you find a few? You may feel judged by me, but that is your interpretation. I did not single you or anyone else out.

"I think it's pretty morrally arrogant of you to judge people who need their toast for not buying a package that doesn't provide it."

You make it sound as if the only texture that you need is the one for the genitals. I also made it clear that I don’t judge people who render nude figures. I would think it fairly ridiculous to render a nude with no genitals. I want you to be able to have textures that fulfill all of your needs. But, there are plenty of "toast" textures available that will do that, and I dare say you have some of them. If I am arrogant (or petty for that matter) I am in good and plenteous company here.

I have always liked you, LostinSpaceman. I am determined to continue to do so. I have to admit, Mel Gibs is over the top, and I don’t enjoy him any more, or a lot of other actors.

lmk

Probably edited for spelling, grammer, punctuation, or typos.