I think the WIP Antonia by odf has "Bike Pants" hips... the "bike pants" hip doesn't tear or deform as badly as the "bikini hip" in my opinion. Also the JCM joint fixes are easier to control. P2 Nude Woman could go through a wide range of leg movement and the groin wouldn't tear. There was over stretching of the genital area but that is easily fixable with joint parameter adjustment or even just a magnet. The result was that a half descent texture and bump map gave better genitals than the morphs and props for V4 do now. I don't need a mimic ready vulva... just something that doesn't look weird in normal artistic or everyday poses.