Well I think  I should use what is easiest but then again that would depend on how good the quality is. The AO that I have used on some of my renders was the node settings that you posted in the render with the shoe render you posted when talking about AO.

Quote - You sure you want material-based AO? I don't use that anymore, since light-based AO works very well now. I did the changes to the non-AO version of the skin template, thinking that's what you'd want. I'll have to go back and do them again for the material-based AO. As it's getting pretty late and I should go to sleep (have a meeting first thing in the morning) I'll get this out tomorrow.