sorry Ben, but coming from the man that complains constantly at the drop of a hat about everything..... I take you complaning about me as a compliment :)

as to poser 8.. I'm in the had no problems with it camp.

the way I look at it, Pro's main strength is the network rendering and 64bit render engine.

8's the new library and the improved render engine.

depends on what you want to do with it.