bowiefan opened this issue on Oct 10, 2009 · 35 posts
MikeJ posted Sat, 10 October 2009 at 3:21 PM
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Thanks for putting words into my mouth, but that's not what I said. I voiced my opinion that P8 produces better renders than P Pro. I also suggested that to run P8 smoothly an up to date system, not riddled with all the junk ('crapware') I see on many 'broken' systems, is a good idea.I don't know what aspect of this advice has prompted such a juvenile response.
I didn't have to put the words into your mouth, you did it all yourself.
You didn't voice your "opinion that P8 produces better renders than P Pro". What you actually said was "The results from Poser 8 are just so much better." Results from what? The new rigging? Render speed? IDL or regular renders? OpenGL performance? Library results are better? Distributed rendering?
There's an awful lot that can fall under the category of "it's just better".
And as to what "prompted such a juvenile response", you seem to have taken it upon yourself to decide for everyone that if they have a decent machine Poser 8 will run fine unless they have bad drivers or are "riddled with crapware".
So, conversely, the conclusion one might draw from your statement is that if one's experience with Poser 8 is not "a very positive one", therefore your machine must be weak, your drivers bad, and your machine riddled with crapware.
Tell that to the Mac people, for one, but for another it's not really very realistic (or fair) to imply that Poser 8 is all hunky dory for everyone with a half decent machine. The numerous posts about it seem to prove that Poser 8 does in fact have a myriad of problems.
But just for the sake of saying it, the machine I used it on is very capable and up-to-date. i7 950, 16 GB of RAM, GTX 260, Vista Ultimate x64, Veliciraptor HDD's in RAID 0. It's a professional workstation running 3 versions of Max and Maya, not to mention all the other stuff like Photoshop and it does just fine with all those apps.
The library is a nuisance, plain and simple, IMO, and seems to prefer being crashed as opposed to operating. There is no crapware on that machine. it's not even connected to the internet except for when it has to be. Such as for downloading Flash to run Poser for some ungodly ridiculous reason.
Actually, I think my response was the less juvenile, if we're going to be assigning labels and making post comparisons.
And my post was the more informative and more realistic. You just couldn't help but chiming in from the defensive angle. No real explanation other than that, since you chose not to actually add to the discussion, but rather seemed to just want to counter my statements.